Tintin Forums

Tintin Forums / Official Tintin books /

Picaros: Is Hergé saying things don't change at the end?

Page  Page 1 of 3:  1  2  3  Next » 

Smudgie
Member
#1 · Posted: 30 Apr 2006 20:13
Just a thought - when Haddock and Calculus are flying into Tapiocalis (can't spell it!) it shows a frame of poor people living in a dump. In the end frame when Tintin, Haddock and Calculus are flying out of Alcazaris or whatever it's called, it shows the same poor people. Is Herge saying that it doesn't matter to these people who rules them - they're going to be living a life of poverty no matter what?
jockosjungle
Member
#2 · Posted: 1 May 2006 08:12
Yes that is exactly his point, that all that has changed for the people is the police uniforms. I'm not really for certain whether he had any sympathy for real life people's revolutions in his earlier years but it was pretty clear by the 1980's that new regimes never really saw any benefit for the poor of the country and this is simply a reflection of that.

I think it also has to do with Tintin's reluctance to go on his final adventure as well, although he saves his friends and helped bring Alcazar to power again that he hasn't really done anything really except change the dictator in power.

Rik
SingingGandalf
Member
#3 · Posted: 1 May 2006 10:26
Yes, I'm not overly sure if Tintin likes Alcazar, just puts up with him. I think that that is what Herge is trying to show. Sometimes you need to make alliances with bad(maybe not the right word) people to do good?
Eugene
Member
#4 · Posted: 26 Jul 2006 23:12
Alcazar was a bit of a baddy in the Red Sea Sharks
stuart
Member
#5 · Posted: 27 Jul 2006 15:23

Alcazar was a bit of a baddy in the Red Sea Sharks


He's not exactly one of the good guys in the Broken Ear either - he sentences Tintin to death doesn't he?
number1fan
Member
#6 · Posted: 27 Jul 2006 16:08
he doesnt sentence him to death; he saves from being sentenced to death.
pokemon
Member
#7 · Posted: 19 Jul 2007 16:30
alcazar is after all a politician-people with an infamous career
Guy
Member
#8 · Posted: 19 Jul 2007 22:58
The poor people were cut out of the video apparently...
Tapiocapolis
Alcazaropolis ;)
motheroftintin
Member
#9 · Posted: 20 Jul 2007 00:34
If Tapioca had saved Tintin from the execution and everything went backwards, it wouldn't have changed that much, right?
Vicky
Member
#10 · Posted: 3 May 2008 19:32 · Edited by: Vicky
number1fan wrote:
he doesnt sentence him to death; he saves from being sentenced to death.


He did save him when he was about to be shot but later he sentenced him to death again because he was given a fake note according to which Tintin was supposedly a spy plotting against him.

Smudgie wrote:
Is Herge saying that it doesn't matter to these people who rules them - they're going to be living a life of poverty no matter what?


From an optimistic point of view, perhaps Alcazar eventually does proceed to improve the living conditions of these people some time afterwards. Besides, Alcazar refers to Tapioca as a bloodthirsty tyrant in "Tintin and the Picaros" and he is critical ofTapioca's justice system while they are watching Castafiore's and the Thompson's trial. Of course this doesn't necessarily mean that he truly is any better and he did have chances to correct things the previous times when he was in charge but hopefully the time he spent as a guerilla made him see some sense.

motheroftintin wrote:
If Tapioca had saved Tintin from the execution and everything went backwards, it wouldn't have changed that much, right?


Alcazar and Tapioca may not be very different when it comes to their administration and managing approaches but overall, I consider Alcazar a much more OK fellow than Tapioca. At least Alcazar keeps his promises whereas Tapioca does not (he did give his word that Tintin, Haddock and Calculus would be safe if they met him to talk things over and all the time, with the help of Sponz, he was planning to get them killed and make it look like an accident). Which is why I don't really think that Tintin would have been friends with Tapioca even if things had turned out differently. Plus, Alcazar is loyal to his friends and even risked a lot to come over and help Tintin and company escape when he was told they were in danger.

SingingGandalf wrote:
Yes, I'm not overly sure if Tintin likes Alcazar, just puts up with him. I think that that is what Herge is trying to show. Sometimes you need to make alliances with bad(maybe not the right word) people to do good?


I believe that Tintin actually finds Alcazar more or less OK and he tends to refer to him as a "friend" in the series. After all he even went backstage to say "hello" to Alcazar in "The Seven Crystal Balls" ( and oddly enough they both seemed to have forgotten that they had not parted on very friendly terms in "The Broken Ear"). Tintin also seemed glad to meet him in "The Red Sea Sharks" and was asking Alcazar where they can find him etc. Alcazar also refers to Tintin as a friend in every episode that features him.

Page  Page 1 of 3:  1  2  3  Next » 

Please be sure to familiarize yourself with the Forum Posting Guidelines.

Disclaimer: Tintinologist.org assumes no responsibility for any content you post to the forums/web site. Staff reserve the right to remove any submitted content which they deem in breach of Tintinologist.org's Terms of Use. If you spot anything on Tintinologist.org that you think is inappropriate, please alert the moderation team. Sometimes things slip through, but we will always act swiftly to remove unauthorised material.

Reply



  Forgot your password?
Please sign in to post. New here? Sign up!