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TNT
Member
#1 · Posted: 18 Feb 2007 13:07
Resently, I investigate biography of Hergé.
I heard vaguely Hergé had sad and dim childhood…
Psychoanalysist Serge Tisseron anounced through his books: Hergé depressed by secret of family, I remember Benoît Peeters said he got some child abuse.
Do you know about it? (I not intend to dig scandal!)
yamilah
Member
#2 · Posted: 19 Feb 2007 21:46 · Edited by: yamilah
TNT
I remember Benoit Peeters said he got some childabuse.
Do you know about it?


I'm afraid this is a very personal issue, and not one to be dealt in a Tintin family forum...
Maybe you should ask Herge's characters personally, while keeping in mind they are quite personal themselves?

(I not intend to dig scandal!)
Likely everybody will appreciate your assertion!
jock123
Moderator
#3 · Posted: 19 Feb 2007 22:50 · Edited by: jock123
As far as I have read, claims were made that Hergé was abused as a child; however this was based on an interpretation of documents - there isn't a single piece of actual evidence (he never said it, and the correspondence does not mention it) to support it.

yamilah is being somewhat coy in his reluctance in discussing this matter, as his tracking game appears to be based on the notion that Hergé encoded information about childhood abuse in his books, and again there hasn't been any evidence offered which backs this up.
yamilah
Member
#4 · Posted: 19 Feb 2007 23:50 · Edited by: yamilah
I wrote:
Maybe you should ask Herge's characters personally, while keeping in mind they are quite personal themselves?

In other words, Herge most likely 'told' something personal via coy drawn avatars or amplifications or reflections liable to echo exotic syllables thanks to a writing constraint* connected with poetry*.

This likely requires some personal interest in the oulipo*-related literary field of poetry* ...and a personal deeper reflection about image reading, that could help to find the way to some magic & unique construction, rather than bringing destruction*.
For what concerns evidence, maybe actually one has to find it just by oneself, via such a construction?
Tintinrulz
Member
#5 · Posted: 20 Feb 2007 02:39
Good grief! Give it a rest already!

All I know is what I've gathered from reading books about him. All they say is that he had a tough and boring childhood - corporal punishment was practised a lot. I don't think we know anything more than that.
mondrian
Member
#6 · Posted: 20 Feb 2007 06:28
yamilah
For what concerns evidence, maybe actually one has to find it just by oneself, via such a construction?


Maybe we should be bit cautious when talking about evidence in this case? Certain thoughts (or literary products etc) can´t be said to be logical consequence of one or other experience in life. There´s no such necessity.

Your reasoning seems to be abductive at best, yet you seem to think it´s deductive. I´m struggling to see any "proof" or "evidence". And when it comes to "logic" behind your theory, I´m afraid we are not using the word in the same meaning.
yamilah
Member
#7 · Posted: 20 Feb 2007 09:20
mondrian
I'm struggling to see any "proof" or "evidence".

Maybe you just haven't been struggling long enough?

And when it comes to "logic" behind your theory, I´m afraid we are not using the word in the same meaning.

Who knows?
jock123
Moderator
#8 · Posted: 20 Feb 2007 09:40
yamilah
In other words, Herge most likely 'told' something personal via coy drawn avatars or amplifications or reflections liable to echo exotic syllables thanks to a writing constraint* connected with poetry*
The repeated mis-use of the terms avatar and amplification apart, your use of the words “most likely” have no place in this, surely? The “most likely” proposition is that there isn’t a message - it stands to reason.

All the stuff about echoes, syllabls, poetry etc. is entirely of your own creation - you haven’t shown any evidence that Hergé would even recgonize what you are saying, let alone understand it.

Until there is any evidence (and I tend to mondrian’s position on this) to the contrary, that is the position one must take using logic (again I am with modrian on this).

Maybe you just haven't been struggling long enough?
You haven’t indicated that a futile struggle is worth the effort…
yamilah
Member
#9 · Posted: 20 Feb 2007 10:12 · Edited by: yamilah
All the stuff about echoes, syllabls, poetry etc. is entirely of your own creation
Maybe such a tribute should rather be paid to Herge, who asserted there was a message in his artwork?

You haven't indicated that a futile struggle is worth the effort
Maybe -and perhaps for those who are interested in rebuses only- there's a non-futile surprise in the end?


mondrian
Your reasoning seems to be abductive at best, yet you seem to think it´s deductive.
I suppose by 'abductive' you mean inductive?
In the case of a rebus, would your reasoning be only inductive, only deductive, or both?
mondrian
Member
#10 · Posted: 20 Feb 2007 11:27
yamilah
I suppose by 'abductive' you mean inductive?

No, I meant abductive.

In the case of a rebus, would your reasoning be only inductive, only deductive, or both?

I rather not reason about that at all. You do know what happens when you mix false premises with any kind of logic?

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