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For the last time: Tintin and Hergé were not Nazis!

number1fan
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#1 · Posted: 4 Mar 2010 19:30 · Edited by: Moderator
I just came across a short video (that I won't link to it) claiming Hergé was a Nazi.
Clearly the people who make these accusations know nothing of the subject, as Tintin is always good over evil.
Belgium was occupied by the Nazis, and the video claims that he dropped all the anti-Fascist material like that was in King Ottokar's Sceptre - but how does this make him a Nazi?
I imagine he was told that, if he carried this on, he, all the people he knew, and his family would have been destroyed by the SS, so - realistically - what are you going to do?
Exactly! You are going to cooperate, as it wouldn't be just your life, it would be the lives of others too.

The stories he did in the war were great; if anything, it would be refreshing for readers to have some escapism, such as treasure-hunts. as the war must have been in the papers in the early to mid 1940s.

And if Hergé was such a Nazi, why is it that a person of Jewish faith is directing the new film?

It's easy for people to make these accusations, but do they have any real evidence?
george
Member
#2 · Posted: 5 Mar 2010 10:15
You're likely preaching to the converted on this forum, but I posted a short rebuff to such similar lazy churnalism here:

http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/02/15/tintins-list/

Oh, and it really should be "were not Nazis"; you can move the possessive apostrophe to "Ottokar's" :-)

George
number1fan
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#3 · Posted: 7 Mar 2010 21:52
I feel there's a bit of a band-wagon, like most things, where one person says Hergé is a Nazi, and others follow until they don't even know what they are talking about.
The critics are so quick to pan Hergé, but he wasn't he only person to work under Nazi rule.
doubleT
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#4 · Posted: 26 Mar 2010 02:46 · Edited by: Moderator
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No way Hergé and Tintin were Nazis.
During the occupation, Hergé and many others were just trying to keep jobs; guys have put bread on the table.

Yes I know that their were people who refused to work under the Nazis, and it's perfectly understandable, but that my be a little self righteous since they kind of said that anyone who does otherwise if with the Axis.

But not everyone can be a hero (suddenly I'm thinking of the saying "billy, don't be a hero").

That's why Hergé created Tintin, so that he could be a hero were it counts (in your heart) while not actually doing the dangerous things that heroes do himself

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mct16
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#5 · Posted: 26 Mar 2010 17:20
Herge was not a Nazi, I will agree to that - but he was not perfect. "Shooting Star" was published during the war and as well as the Jewish-like banker who plays the main villain there was a scene in the original newspaper publication in which a pair of Jews called Isaac and Salomon look forward to the end of the world since they'd be spared from paying off their debts!

I seem to recall reading somewhere that Herge himself admitted to being slightly anti-Semitic, though he claimed that it was simply a common thing at the time. I've also read that some well-known anti-Semitics were active in the Resistance against the Nazis during the war. They may have hated Jews, but they hated foreign occupiers even more.

Just goes to show. Unlike Tintin, real life is not about good and evil and taking the appropriate side according to your beliefs. You have to change them along with the circumstances.
doubleT
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#6 · Posted: 26 Mar 2010 18:34
Sorry about that, I guess I was just felling really self expressive,because I absolutely love Tintin, but I really, really hate Nazis and anti-semitism (that stuff just makes me sick to my stomach and boils my blood with rage).

I'm Jewish myself and proud of it,so if some anti-Semitic nonsense came up, or someone bad-mouthed me because I'm Jewish, I'd at the least kick them in the pants, give them a really bad bloody nose, and knock their teeth out so hard their dentist would feel it.

I'm convinced that Hergé wasn't really anti-Semitic, he was just naive and just blindly listening to his superiors.
Eric
Member
#7 · Posted: 26 Mar 2010 21:20
It is always hard to reconcile the great works with their creators. From what I've read, calling Hergé a Nazi collaborator is going overboard, but perhaps that over-reaction is in response to the other extreme, the celebration of Hergé as a saint and that there were no negative issues with his life or work. In truth, it strikes me that Hergé's work for a Nazi-run newspaper and his representations of different races in Tintin are a grey area, but it is people's inclination to either paint the issues as black or white.

I'm a big fan of P.G. Wodehouse, and his reputation has suffered from some of the same issues.
boosterjones
Member
#8 · Posted: 24 Nov 2010 11:48 · Edited by: boosterjones
People change over time and are NOT perfect!

That is why in 1930-1931 he did 'Tintin in the Congo' but in later years would come to regret doing that book (and it's revised version in 1946.)

No I don't think that he was a Natzi or anything like that, sure he'd sometimes depict people in ways that are now consdered offenive but tha was purely due to the times he lived in!

And yes Rastspoplos was a Jew, the way I see things he'd have rejected his hertage after he forced his family into povaty.

I hope that this is the last word we have to hear on this subject, but it would seem unlikely to be so!
Furienna
Member
#9 · Posted: 2 Jul 2019 00:34 · Edited by: Moderator
mct16:
there was a scene in the original newspaper publication in which a pair of Jews called Isaac and Salomon look forward to the end of the world

I remember how shocked I became when I saw that scene. It was really hard for me to believe that good old Hergé had done such a thing. Considering when and where it was made though, I guess that we should cut him some slack.
Blumenstein/ Bohlwinkel has never bothered me just as much. I like to think that he just happened to be Jewish and a villain at the same time, which I can accept.
But when it comes to Isaac and Salomon, they seemed to be that greedy and slimy because they were Jewish. And I am very glad that their scene never made it to the album versions of the story.

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