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“Tintin in the New World: A romance”: A novel by Frederic Tuten

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Ranko
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#21 · Posted: 20 May 2007 15:30
I've just bought a copy of this book on e-bay for £5. I've never read it before so I'm going to go into it with an open mind. There seems to be varied opinions as to the quality and content of the book. I'll have a read and decide what I think.
If I find it not worth keeping then I may pass it on to fellow tintinologists who have not read it just to see what the fuss is about.

Stay tuned. Due to arrive mid week.
Tintinrulz
Member
#22 · Posted: 21 May 2007 13:51
I really have strong doubts that Herge gave permission to Tuten. Herge was no idiot and Tuten obviously just wanted to make a quick buck (I mean he even used characters and whole situtations from another book - Magic Mountain).
jock123
Moderator
#23 · Posted: 21 May 2007 17:52
Tintinrulz
I really have strong doubts that Herge gave permission to Tuten. Herge was no idiot and Tuten obviously just wanted to make a quick buck
Whatever his motives, financial or not, he certainly did get permission from Hergé, with whom he was friends, apparently.
Ranko
Member
#24 · Posted: 25 May 2007 14:05
The book arrived today, and although being a little pretentious, it is, so far, a good read.
It is also very verbose, so I'll press on and see how far I get.

I'll post something when I'm done.
sliat_1981
Member
#25 · Posted: 26 May 2007 05:54 · Edited by: sliat_1981
If you call this book art, I would like to know what you consider garbage?

As for the book, I'm sure when he asked for permission he did not mention the perverted scenes he would put in it. You think it's "modern art" do you? Well I'll quote the paragraph in the novel that made me most angry.
Page 189:
But now, cher maitre, here in these enchanted Inca mountains, a new life seems coming. Starting and wholly new these sensations and feelings. Each hour I discover a change, a deepening of my voice, an increase in height. Yesterday, I'm embarrassed to speak so plainly, I woke up in bed to find my penis stiff and tall, rising up like a pole, and I rotated it against the cloth sheet. How good it felt at the root and the top.
At this point I stopped reading and disgustedly threw the book against my wall. It is totally ruining my image of Tintin. I don't want to read about his penis. Who would want to read about that? Art? I don't see much art that talks about erections and masturbating.
Herge did not want anyone to continue Tintin after him. Tuten didn't want anyone to continue Tintin after HIM. But he thought of a better way to do it, by killing off a much-loved character, that wasn't even his creation.
Tintin:
Born: 1929 to a great artist, Herge.
Died: 1992 (suicide, for no apparent reason) because of some loser called, Frederic Tuten.
Thanks Tuten! Thanks for killing off our much loved character, Tintin. I mean, its bad enough you killed him, but not even to have him die saving someone or by one of his villains. To have someone who had got out of danger countless times, been through dangers all over the world, commit suicide by jumping in a river! Bravo!
Ranko
Member
#26 · Posted: 26 May 2007 09:17
sliat_1981
At this point I stopped reading and disgustedly threw the book against my wall. It is totally ruining my image of Tintin

Why did you carry on reading then?
Can you please explain what is so "perverted" about a natural function of the human body?
sliat_1981
Member
#27 · Posted: 27 May 2007 06:46 · Edited by: sliat_1981
If I had the permission to write a novel, I'd discount the events in "New World" as a terrible dream and have Tintin heading off as the character we knew and loved.

To answer you question, Ranko, my uncle had bought it for me and I felt as I had an obligation. It's perverted because it has no place in a book about someone who was designed to be a children's character.
It has more graphic description than other "romance" novels. It's more like William S. Burroughs' Naked Lunch and pornography than "art".
Ranko
Member
#28 · Posted: 27 May 2007 18:58
sliat_1981
It's perverted because it has no place in a book about someone who was designed to be a children's character.

But this is, quite simply, not a children's book. A read of the first paragraph would at least suggest that more investigation of the books content might be a good idea before handing it over to a child.
However, I would think that any child with the ability to read and understand this book would also be able to understand that it is an interpretation of Tintin. Children do not live in a vacuum.
sliat_1981
Member
#29 · Posted: 28 May 2007 07:13
Then Ranko, why if Tuten wanted to create a book about this kind of subject, why did he pick on Tintin? Why not create his own characters? This was a money thing. Tintin was designed to be a childrens character. Didn't Tuten think that when his novel was released a lot of children would hear about it and want to read about their loved character? How many adults may have bought it for their children for a present as a surprise (not knowing what was in it) and then have them reading about Tintin wanking and commiting suicide?
Also I disagee about you saying children would understand it. My stepbrother watched Ace Ventura: When Nature calls and in the scene where the explorer catches him with his hand under the blanket and he says "Don't come in.. not yet", my stepbrother had no idea what was happening.
Ranko
Member
#30 · Posted: 28 May 2007 11:18
sliat_1981
How many adults may have bought it for their children for a present as a surprise (not knowing what was in it) and then have them reading about Tintin wanking and commiting suicide?

As to why he chose Tintin, you would have to discuss that with the author. Of course it's a money thing. Why else write the book?
Like I said. Children dont live in a vacuum. Surely it's up to the parents to explain to their children that this is one persons interpretation of Tintin. I think we have to agree to disagree on this. I think parents should censor childrens reading. It's not a job for the state or author.

Also I disagee about you saying children would understand it. My stepbrother watched Ace Ventura: When Nature calls and in the scene where the explorer catches him with his hand under the blanket and he says "Don't come in.. not yet", my stepbrother had no idea what was happening.

So if he doesn't know whats happening, then there's no problem in him seeing it?

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