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“Tintin in the New World: A romance”: A novel by Frederic Tuten

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Ranko
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#31 · Posted: 25 May 2007 14:05
The book arrived today, and although being a little pretentious, it is, so far, a good read.
It is also very verbose, so I'll press on and see how far I get.

I'll post something when I'm done.
sliat_1981
Member
#32 · Posted: 26 May 2007 05:54 · Edited by: sliat_1981
You say I write like a freshman girl. I do not know what a freshman is (how can someone be called a freshMAN and still be female?). You seem to have a prejudice against America and girls as you have suggested that I write like them there is something wrong with them. Shame on you. I don't see any of my post that would suggest what sex I am or what nationality I am.
As for the book, I'm sure when he asked for permission he did not mention the perverted scenes he would put in it. You think it's "modern art" do you? Well I'll quote the paragraph in the novel that made me most angry.
Page 189:
But now, cher maitre, here in these enchanted Inca mountains, a new life seems coming. Starting and wholly new these sensations and feelings. Each hour I discover a change, a deepening of my voice, an increase in height. Yesterday, I'm embarrassed to speak so plainly, I woke up in bed to find my penis stiff and tall, rising up like a pole, and I rotated it against the cloth sheet. How good it felt at the root and the top.
At this point I stopped reading and disgustedly threw the book against my wall. It is totally ruining my image of Tintin. I don't want to read about his penis. Who would want to read about that? Art? I don't see much art that talks about erections and masturbating.
Another quote of page 211:
To wake up in the morning in our broad bed, under Egyptian sheets; to start our hearts to beat in lovemaking.
Again, I don't want to picture Tintin having sex. This is utter crap.
An even worse quote is what the woman who has had sex with him is thinking on page 216:
Clavdia felt herself soften, opening to him as a mother would to her own child; she would press him to her breast, stroke him, call him sweet names, she would take him back to the hotel, bathe and feed him, undress and make love to him,
Like a mother to her own child? I don't think Mothers make love to their own children and I'm not sure about others, but my mum did not push me into her boobs to comfort me. That's really off-putting.
Then on page 217, he is upset, then somehow the ground (yes, that's right, the ground) starts talking to him. It says things like:
I've been a regular sex mattress for a couple of million years. Everything's made it here, snakes, jaguars, rabbits, snails 'n' zillion tons a humans, all plowing away like there's no tomorrow.
and
Well, ain't that tough? Whatta you gonna do, piss on me?
Then later this crude talking ground gives him a piece of advice for life.
If you call this art, I would like to know what you consider garbage.
Herge did not want anyone to continue Tintin after him. Tuten didn't want anyone to continue Tintin after HIM. But he thought of a better way to do it, by killing off a much-loved character, that wasn't even his creation.
Tintin:
Born: 1929 to a great artist, Herge.
Died: 1992 (suicide, for no apparent reason) because of some loser called, Frederic Tuten.
Thanks Tuten! Thanks for killing off our much loved character, Tintin. I mean, its bad enough you killed him, but not even to have him die saving someone or by one of his villains. To have someone who had got out of danger countless times, been through dangers all over the world, commit suicide by jumping in a river! Bravo!
Tintinrulz
Member
#33 · Posted: 26 May 2007 06:54
Dang right! I couldn't have said it any better myself.
Ranko
Member
#34 · Posted: 26 May 2007 09:17
sliat_1981
At this point I stopped reading and disgustedly threw the book against my wall. It is totally ruining my image of Tintin

Why did you carry on reading then?
Can you please explain what is so "perverted" about a natural function of the human body?
tintinspartan
Member
#35 · Posted: 26 May 2007 20:05
Emmm... Please! silat_1981. I do get what you mean but the ending of that script was what I don't get. If he jumped off a cliff, did he survive or not.

Killing off a major character that shaped the spine of Franco-Belgian Comic is plain ridiculous. I much more pointed out mistakes and would want to make some of the existing stories better. Flight 714 is the flick that needs too be improved the most. I hate the part where Spalding outsmart Tintin. Here's a bit of synopsis from the scene of hijacking the Carriedas 160:

Tintin exited the washroom and found Spalding pointing the gun at Tintin's fellow companions. Tintin rushed and get on Spalding's back. Spalding and Tinitn struggled till Tintin was knocked out by a baton hit from one of the sinister pilots.

...And the story goes on.

Well, liked it? I could say Tinitn was seduced. His mind then ran mad and into overdrive. He was thinkin' SEX. Yuck! I like the safer Tintin. If I'm given an oppurtunity to write a novel based on Tintin, I would make it feel and look appealing to all Tintinologists as I already suited myself to all the needs of Tintin fans.
Tintinrulz
Member
#36 · Posted: 27 May 2007 02:47
No, Flight 714 is a brilliant deconstruction of many of the characters.
tintinspartan
Member
#37 · Posted: 27 May 2007 06:34
What do 'deconstruction' mean?
tintinspartan
Member
#38 · Posted: 27 May 2007 06:43
Died: 1992 (suicide, for no apparent reason) because of some loser called, Frederic Tuten.
Thanks Tuten! Thanks for killing off our much loved character, Tintin. I mean, its bad enough you killed him, but not even to have him die saving someone or by one of his villains. To have someone who had got out of danger countless times, been through dangers all over the world, commit suicide by jumping in a river! Bravo!


Well, I understand of your emotions for that major disappointment. I red the whole book a couple of times and tried to understand it as a guide to understand adult novels. I wrote a story, inspired by the book for a major essay exam and it was ectastic! When I red the book, I imaged Tintin and his surrounding and actions in my head. Well, I don't like the part of that dream chapter but Tintin would be different if I were the writer for that. I removed the sexual content and insert some adventurous content and cliffhangers in. We don't want Tintin to be a retarded person when he goes into adult stage.
sliat_1981
Member
#39 · Posted: 27 May 2007 06:46 · Edited by: sliat_1981
The final paragraph says:
.. he undressed completely-except for a red macumba pouch strung about his neck-immersed himself in the water, and streamed away into the ribboned darkness and light.
Therefore he didnt jump off a cliff, he decided to drown himself. The ribboned darkness is obvious meaning that he was heading towards death. Why he kills himself (in the nude!) is never explained. Tuten was determined to be the absolute last person to write a Tintin book (where the characters do not resemble the ones we know). It has little to do with Tintin (Tuten give the Captain a new phrase, "Blustering banannas" instead of the more well loved "Blistering barnacles"). Killing him off really upset me. To love Tintin so much and see him commit suicide is really upsetting for children.
Furthermore, if I had the permission to write a novel, I'd discount the events in "New World" as a terrible dream and have Tintin heading off as the character we knew and loved.
To answer you question, Ranko, my uncle had bought it for me and I felt as I had an obligation. Its perverted because it has no place in a book about someone who was desiged to be a children's character. It seems more graphic description than other "romance" novels. Its more like William S. Burroughs' Naked Lunch and pornography than "art". Would you like to see Topcat masturbating? I suppose we can make a novel out of that. The Last Temptation Of Topcat.
tintinspartan
Member
#40 · Posted: 27 May 2007 14:03 · Edited by: tintinspartan
OK! Silat_1981. I think you are demanding a protest agaisnt the book. At first, the begining's fine but as the story goes, it turns to bligewater. Yuck! If that's your case of Tintin commiting suicide, Captain Haddock and Snowy would be weeping by the grave if Tintin's body was found and brought back to Marlinspike and that would spark a global shock, the same situation as tragic as Elvis Presley's death.

Well, let's not talk about that. Luckily, the book was not that famous. If it was, I swear that Tintin would be a bad image. Why Moulinsart managed to let Tuten off to write a bad story? Tuten is a person who never, ever hear from demands of Tintinologists! I protest! He's deaf!

I heard of Tintin in Thailand. There are some up for sale at online auctions. I'm not encouraging piracy but they are e-comics. Oh boy! Why Tintin In The New World was not stopped from publication. I went to various libraries and found out that many of them are still at their shelves. As I said, it's not famous, luckily.

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