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Q7: Where's 'Caesar' refered to, in the corpus?

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yamilah
Member
#1 · Posted: 7 May 2006 15:30
Caesar (Roman Period) is quoted or mentioned in four Tintin albums. Which ones?
Please give title & page & full quotation (in case of contestation, the various data provided by the original & English versions will be taken into account).
chevet
Belgium Correspondent
#2 · Posted: 8 May 2006 05:15
1)Destination Moon, page 55, frame 16
"Ave César, ceux qui vont mourir te saluent"
2)The Black Island, page 60, frame 2
"Veni, vidi, vici !"
This phrase is from Caesar but his name is not mentionned in the album
3)Tintin and Alph art, page 39, frame 11
"Vous connaissez César ?
Euh ! ...César...Jules ?"
SingingGandalf
Member
#3 · Posted: 8 May 2006 15:47
Also in the Secret of the Unicorn, the dog is called Brutus - a referance to Marcus Junius Brutus - one of the senators who murdered Caesar.
1) In Destination moon the English translates as (said by Haddock as he heads towards the rocket) 'Hail Caesar: those about to die salute thee!'.
2) In The Black island the Thom(p)sons said 'we came, we saw, we conquered' and attributed it to Columbus.
3) In Tintin and Alph-Art, Rastapopoulos says, "Do you know Cesar?" Tintin replies "Err!... Ceasar... Julius?"
yamilah
Member
#4 · Posted: 8 May 2006 18:39
The answers by chevet & SingingGandalf are actually similar and almost full! ...but four* Caesar's quotes or mentions have to be found!
The credit should be given to anyone completing the answer first (and remember, within 21 hours from now, if I'm not mistaken!)

The assertion about Brutus is correct and interesting, but his mere name is neither a quote nor a mention of Caesar himself!
chevet
Belgium Correspondent
#5 · Posted: 8 May 2006 18:51
1)"Ave Caesar, morituri te salutant" is the Latin original phrase. It was pronounced by Roman gladiatoren to the Emperor, before the beginning of the "games".
Please note that here, the word "Caesar" means "The Emperor" and not Julius Caesar.
2)With the words "Veni, vidi, vici", Caesar announced to the Senat his victory on Pharnace, King of Pont.
3)Rastapopoulos says:on this page, it is Endadine Akass who speaks. It appears on some Hergé's notes that Roberto Rastapopoulos and Endandine Akass are the same person but will we ever know the truth ?
yamilah
Member
#6 · Posted: 8 May 2006 22:16
chevet
"Ave Caesar, morituri te salutant" is the Latin original phrase. (...)
Please note that here, the word "Caesar" means "The Emperor" and not Julius Caesar.


Yes, you're right, of course!
That's why the question is about Caesar (Roman period), i.e. not necessarily Julius!
edcharlesadams
Trivia Challenge Score Keeper
#7 · Posted: 9 May 2006 10:46
There is a character in King Ottokar's Sceptre named Czarlitz. Czar (or Tsar) is a Slavic derivation from 'Caesar' as used most famously by the Russians to denote an emperor. But as it's not indicative of the 'Roman period' I'm not certain this is the answer yamilah's looking for!

Ed
yamilah
Member
#8 · Posted: 9 May 2006 12:14
edcharlesadams
Czar (or Tsar) is a Slavic derivation from 'Caesar'

So does most likely Syldavian 'kar', which means 'king' (Ottokar's Sceptre, p.19).

Your comment is interesting, but the answer is neither Czarlitz, nor 'kar' !
jock123
Moderator
#9 · Posted: 9 May 2006 12:18
yamilah
the various data provided by the original & English versions will be taken into account

Wouldn’t it be simpler to use only the English texts (it is the official language of the board, after all) for these questions? Obviously it doesn’t matter if the question is based on visual material (e.g. where does the Captain wear a tie?), but for text I think we should stick to the English-language editions in matters like this.

If the area for dispute can spill over into foreign languages, then the resolution might take longer than the 22 hours or whatever allotted…
yamilah
Member
#10 · Posted: 9 May 2006 13:00
the various data provided by the original & English versions will be taken into account

I just meant that in the unlikely case someone finds a 5th Caesar's (Roman Period) mention or quote in any of these two versions, (s)he should be the winner, or co-winner.

Actually the 'four-books' question about Caesar can be answered by readers in both Herge's original version and English one!


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