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joko
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#51 · Posted: 13 Jul 2012 07:41 · Edited by: Moderator
I am going to see the Tintin museum in Louvain de Neuve in Brussels in September. I can't wait. Does anyone know if it is easy to get there from the City centre?

Moderator Note: We hope you will have a wonderful time, and remember to post about the experience once you have been! As ever, a reminder to do a forum search using the link in the top right hand corner under the site search box before creating a new thread, so see if one exists already; you’ll find a lot about travelling to the museum in this existing thread, so your post has been moved here.

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Fawn_Kadett
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#52 · Posted: 20 May 2013 19:59 · Edited by: Moderator
I'm planning to spend a day in Brussels and read on the Foundation's website that there is a coach/bus direct to the museum.

Does anyone know which hotel its supposed to pick passengers from?

Many thanks.

Moderator Note: It appears that there are some hotels which participate in a scheme in association with a tour company, where hotel guests can be provided with a coach service to the museum - thus it doesn't seem to be a regular service, with stops at specific hotels at scheduled time, but rather that the company will collect guests as and when they reserve a tour. So if you are only making a day trip, you may not qualify if you aren't staying at a hotel.
The coach company do list departure times, but as a reference for guests wishing to time their departure.
This service also only runs on three afternoons per week (Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays), and limits you to a two hour stay at the Museum, which is probably fine if you are a general tourist, taking in a number of sights, but may not be enough for the specialist, dedicated Hergé enthusiast for whom this is the central destination of a visit to Belgium.
You might be able to get the bus from the tour operator's premises, as noted here, and here, although the list of stops has been crossed out on that page. It doesn't appear on the tour company's page about the scheme either, so it may have been withdrawn or cancelled; you might want to contact them and find out.
You will find information about other means of transport to the museum in this thread, if that is of any help.

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Gayboy
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#53 · Posted: 3 Jun 2013 23:07 · Edited by: Gayboy
I just got back yesterday from the museum and got a free book which was worth at least 30€!

I really enjoyed listening to the headphone tour and reading as much of the information as I could--but I thought it was an all day endeavor. I ended up spending almost four hours. I shared some of my art and fanfic ideas with some of the workers. The younger ones thought my art was nice and fanfic ideas were intriguing while the older ones told me the owners hated fanfiction and the people who wrote it. I was told to destroy my fanfiction stories and all my fan art by one employee if I had any respect for Herge at all. I was aghast and quickly moved away from that person.

I also want to mention that when you go remember that you cannot take pictures inside any of the rooms. I misunderstood thinking you could take pictures on the entire bottom floor and they made me erase the pictures I had taken except the ones outside and on the bridges to the other rooms.

Other than that, I thought the museum was a great experience and everyone who is a fan should go there and learn more about the inspirations of Herge.

I liked the old photos from some of the places he visited which were quite impressionable. They were almost as if it were a moment frozen in time to appear in 3D. (I know it's a photo lol but it was with that machine you look in the glasses. I almost felt that any moment I was going to jump back into that instant and experience the scene.)

I was practicing some French before I came to Belgium which the employees were correcting my pronunciation which was cool. One employee told me they were just happy I was attempting to speak French lol.

Another note or question I would like to add would be I saw a page with Tintin and Haddock in a car going down the road as if another car was driving carelessly. Haddock seemed to be yelling out the window at the other driver while Tintin helplessly tried to pull him back in. Eventually when the cars stop Haddock gets out to confront the careless driver. After a heated exchange of words the man gets out and ends up being a much bigger man. My question is, does anyone know which book if any it came from or what the origins of this page is?

The first Sunday of every month I believe is free which was cool since I didn't pay yesterday to get in. So if you do get the opportunity, go see it. It's worth it, I would love to go a second time if I can.
mct16
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#54 · Posted: 4 Jun 2013 10:31
Gayboy:
Another note or question I would like to add would be I saw a page with Tintin and Haddock in a car going down the road as if another car was driving carelessly. Haddock seemed to be yelling out the window at the other driver while Tintin helplessly tried to pull him back in...

It sounds like an early page of the "ThermoZéro", a Tintin story for which Herge drew a couple of pages but ultimately decided not to complete. For more details see: Le ThermoZéro: Should it be released? and Jo, Zette & Jocko: Le ThermoZéro.
Gayboy
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#55 · Posted: 4 Jun 2013 15:35
mct16
Yes, that's it... now I remember the name now. Wow, if only Herge could have lived another decade maybe we could have gotten the story about Nestor being framed that another poster mentioned Herge spoke of once; and, perhaps this one.

Thanks for posting that! It appears that Haddock should have listened to Tintin in that strip!
Fawn_Kadett
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#56 · Posted: 9 Jun 2013 23:24
I recently visited the Museum too!

From the UK, we figured out that it was best to take the Eurostar, with an overnight stay and late return to the UK, so say 24 hours is needed.

We took the 7pm train, which arrived at 9 (lose an hour too). The Eurostar was clean and obviously quick. I'm sure Hergé would have almost certainly used it for a Tintin story!
The day was unusually hot and warm, which added to the excitement. We sorted out accommodation close to Gare du Midi, as we used the train service to get to the foundation plus I wanted to get a good feel for Brussels.
The apartment we stayed at was in the working class district of the Marolle. It's comparable to the east end of London.

We had a walk around a fascinating antiques market and then caught the 11.00 train.

The train journey took just over an hour - we took a train from Gare du Midi to Louvain-la-Neuve (university). The journey was fine, wasn't too crowded and felt very safe.

The Louvain-la-Neuve station is a leisurely 10 minutes walk away from the museum, through a pleasant student village. It was an impressive sight, and as we walked through the foyer we noticed the colossal size of it.

I love architecture, and even if you don't, you can't fail to be impressed. They have lockers, so you can leave you luggage/shopping in a locker. We also used the storage at the Gare Du Midi, which was useful.

Photography is not permitted inside the galleries - basically any photos of printed material is prohibited - please remember this if you should visit, much of the material has been published in books, so you do get a chance to see it again.

We didn't use the headspeaker guide, as we planned to spend around 4 hours there - that worked out just right for us.

I won't go into the details of the exhibits, as it may spoil the impact for those who haven't been. I had no real idea what I would see but I have to say it was one of the most memorable days of my life.

It's fair to say that Hergé actually influenced my career, since reading 'Red Sea Sharks' as a 6 year old, I knew I wanted to draw and design and my work is influenced by his pure simple style.

The staff were very friendly, a curator (must be close to the perfect job!) gave us a good hour of his time - he took the trouble to speak to us in English and we were very lucky to have a little insight into Hergé's artwork and thoughts.

I bought several books at the giftshop - a book with French text on the cars used by Tintin, and a couple of the Art of Hergé volumes - the large copies were close to 100 Euros, so we bought the smaller, thinned out issues which are more than adequate.

Personally I would have liked to have seen a little more about the recent film, but that's the only criticism.

You could probably do this weekend on a minimum of £250 (eurostar, taxi, trains, food, entrance and cheap accommodation); however, if you add spending money it could turn out to be a very different amount...!
Gayboy
Member
#57 · Posted: 11 Jun 2013 19:49 · Edited by: Moderator
Fawn_Kadett
Yes, my experience was similar only I was actually staying in Brussels. Also you should mention not to show any fan art you have to the older workers or mention fanfiction. It seems they relay Mr. Nick Rodwell's extreme hate for any fan art or fanfiction drawn or written.

The film I think is separate from the books as far as owner's rights go I think.
I am kind of curious to know if the scripts for the movies have to be read by Fanny or Mr. Rodwell before they are approved and executed.

Moderator Note: It is un-necessary to characterize the feelings of a third party as "hate", extreme or otherwise - you would not want someone who did not know you to makes such a claim for your views or activities, so it it is only polite to extend that same courtesy to others.
There is also no basis for attributing emotion to what is largely an expression of Hergé's own policy when alive - he was uncomfortable with anyone else drawing or writing for his characters, did not respond happily to the art sent in by readers to the magazine, was known to pursue people through the courts for appropriating his work, and most definitely wanted the series to end with his death.
Mme Rodwell, the former Mme Remi and the person in control of her late husband's estate, has, after some initial deliberation, declared that she would honour and abide by that wish.
Under such circumstances it is not at all surprising that staff at the Hergé Museum abide by and respect this policy, and might be unhappy when presented with fan work.

As to the movies, Studios Hergé has retained input into the process, and Mr. Rodwell is a producer representing their interests; the film makers have been granted rights to exploit the images and stories from their films.

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luinivierge2010
Member
#58 · Posted: 15 Jun 2013 11:33
"did not respond happily to the art sent in by readers to the magazine"

That's a bit strong ! In fact, Herge often responded kindly to readers' drawings of his characters !
jock123
Moderator
#59 · Posted: 15 Jun 2013 13:30
luinivierge2010:
Herge often responded kindly to readers' drawings of his characters !

I'm not trying to suggest that he wouldn't respond kindly - he was a very polite person by all accounts, and good manners wouldn't have had him behave otherwise, especially to a young "customer"; the fact remains, however, that he didn't like that they did it, and would usually suggest that rather than copying him, they would be better applying themselves to creating their own characters.
mct16
Member
#60 · Posted: 15 Jun 2013 17:30
Gayboy:
the film makers have been granted rights to exploit the images and stories from their films.

And that permission must have come from Herge himself since he and Spielberg met briefly before his death and I believe that some kind of contract was signed at the time, so the current film series does have Herge's 30-year-old posthumous blessing.

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