· Posted: 15 Feb 2005 00:13 · Edited by: jock123
the air you breathe is certainly invisible, but still exists, and only special analysis techniques can show its reality...
Well, you can perform all sorts of basic functions to show that it is there: you can see the wind blow it, repeatedly feel it enter your nose and mouth, fill your lungs, expand your chest, blow out a candle with it, blow bubbles in water with it etc. Only if you want to find out what it consists of need you perform a detailed analysis; then, you can perform a series of experiments to isolate the constituents - gas spectroscopy, for example.
Furthermore, you can describe the experiments, both basic and intensive, and another person or people could follow the experiment, and verify the result. It isn't interpretative.
What you are proposing seems to me to be more like phlostigen; early scientists thought that the presence of phlostigen explained various properties of air. However, when they tried a systematic approach, there was no way of validating the proposition, nothing that was repeatable, no methodology that a third-party could use, and they had to conceed that it didn't exist (the discovery of oxygen eliminated the "existence" of phlostigen).
Nothing you have said has yet demonstrated the initial proposition that there are messages or a rebus or a special grid encoded into the works of Hergé. The single example you have put forward from Soviets (and that only after prolonged requesting by the forum), is even by your own admission tenuous at best, and non-existent/ accidental at worst. It is wholly interpretative, does not constitute a message, and is not indicative of a system that is repeatable (or decipherable) by a third-party.
You also still disregard direct questions when placed before you, and never give a definitive answer: this is frustrating, especially when you make assumptions about those who do not automatically accept what you say as lacking an open mind.
You have not indicated, even without specifics:
· what sort of message Hergé would wish to impart in such an improbable way? Is it philosophical, theological, geographical...?
· why would it have to be hidden?
· what possible knowledge could Hergé have picked up, growing up in suburban Brussels between the wars, pretty much under the thumb of his family and the Church, not travelling anywhere, that could have any impact on us as readers of his work?
· why it is significant? I mean if he is telling us how to find the Ark of the Covenant, it's a different matter than if he has embedded the lyrics to Anything Goes, which would be clever but utterly pointless.
What physical evidence is there is that such a message exists? We know that Hergé threw away virtually nothing, annotated the margins of his pages and sketches/scripts he wrote, consulted his studio staff and outside experts. Bernard Tordeur of the Fondation has said that there is textual evidence in the correspondence archive for every significant modification Hergé ever made in a strip - yet he failed to say anything about evidence of encoding, or cryptography having played any part in Hergé's development process. That seems highly unlikely, if not virtually impossible.
Until you can present a case which demonstrates that virtually everything we know about Hergé factually has to be overthrown, then I am not sure how the discussion can progress.