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tybaltstone
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#31 · Posted: 29 Jun 2005 23:26
I doubt the BBC will show the Tintin films as I can't see they'd be very popular. As a curiosity perhaps, maybe they'll make it onto BBC 4 as part of a Tintin night (hah!).

It's unusual to hear that someone likes Tintin in the Congo the best as it's a fairly slap-dash story I think, and wouldn't make a very good film, in my opinion. Though, funnily, I always thought it did closely resemble one of those 30's action adventures, like early Rider Haggard's King Solomon's Mines or one of the other African adventure types... outdated, but fun, if in a rather bad way! :-)

What cartoon ever hurt anyone? Well, it's not the cartoon form itself, but the wrong content put in that form can be harmful. The Nazis used animation as propganda, as did other countries. If someone did make an animated Congo, it wouild have to be done sensitively for a modern audience, and I think would have to change from the original book. Even Hergé - I'm sure - would agree with that.
Richard
UK Correspondent
#32 · Posted: 30 Jun 2005 00:05
I remember reading a while back - I think on the official Tintin site - that in the 1980s, Spielberg was actually toying around with the idea of shooting Tintin in the Congo. However, it was going to be rewritten to the extent of being a new story, with Tintin intervening to save animals instead of wiping them out them wholesale. I think the boy who played Elliot in ET was put forward as a possible candidate, but obviously he'd be a bit old now (in his 30s, I'd imagine). There was also going to be a love interest for Tintin.

It's a shame that Congo, when being redrawn, wasn't rewritten too ; there was so much potential for an adventure in the depths of Africa.
number1fan
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#33 · Posted: 30 Jun 2005 13:28
tintin in the congo would make a good movie as it would be sumthin differnt who cares about the racial drawings its only a book wat about the black island ellipse cartoom it shows the brittish as silly like the bloke who nearly runs tintin over he talks and look like an idiot so its just the same people are so scared about being a bit rasict if it ever gets made in 2 a film which i wont it will b great
Danagasta
Member
#34 · Posted: 30 Jun 2005 15:51
Tybaltstone wrote: What cartoon ever hurt anyone? Well, it's not the cartoon form itself, but the wrong content put in that form can be harmful. The Nazis used animation as propganda, as did other countries. If someone did make an animated Congo, it wouild have to be done sensitively for a modern audience, and I think would have to change from the original book. Even Hergé - I'm sure - would agree with that.

True, we've evolved since then. I would be sickened if today's authors hadn't learned any better.
I know that for Europeans especially, political correctness seems odd. Here in the US, however, we have at least ten times the ethnic groups who are all trying to achieve equality. My own, although we're the original Americans, still hasn't been treated as equals with the European-Americans. It's much more complex than "they thought that way back then, so it's OK to depict it that way now." It isn't OK at all, as we know better now. Respect won't kill us, nor would it be an injustice to the spirit of Tintin. Tintin is cross-cultural, and he's always willing to learn about others. I think we can learn a great deal from that. You'll notice a great example of this heightened awareness in Herge's work after Congo---it starts in The Blue Lotus, when Tintin is talking to Chang about misconceptions the Europeans had about China (and vice versa.)

Courtney
tybaltstone
Member
#35 · Posted: 30 Jun 2005 16:02 · Edited by: tybaltstone
number1fan - I think you're just being provocative. Books have much power - Tintin has had a great effect on us all here, hopefully a positive one.

Courtney - we're very multicultural over here (UK) as well (and I personally love the richness of this). Political correctness is rife over here, but there's a sensible balance to be found. I lived in the US for a year and felt the US was far more ghettoised than the UK. Sure, we have race problems here, but we're much more integrated actually (generally speaking). My own ancestry includes Romany lines, and I have very mixed feelings when stories about Gypsies appear on the news. I think Hergé did quite well with the Romanies though!
Danagasta
Member
#36 · Posted: 1 Jul 2005 16:00
Courtney - we're very multicultural over here (UK) as well (and I personally love the richness of this). Political correctness is rife over here, but there's a sensible balance to be found. I lived in the US for a year and felt the US was far more ghettoised than the UK.

I have to agree with that one!!!! I do know that in some parts of Europe, it isn't that way, but we can hope that the UK is leading the way for those who aren't up to speed yet. I'd like to travel to the UK sometime soon, but money's a huge issue at this time!!!
The richness of multiculturalism is, for me, the best when it comes to FOOD!!!!

The US really is ghettoized. I think it was less where I come from (I'm originally from Tennessee, and we could care less as long as someone was a good person.) Connecticut is very ethnocentric like you described though, and I think people here are more racist. The stereotype says that Southern people (like me!) are all racists, but the opposite is actually true.
What places did you visit, Tybaltstone? I do love traveling!

stop wiv all this nazi stuff a book is a book tintin isnt rascist

Exactly, that's the whole point! Tintin wasn't racist, and that's one of the many things I love about him! In those days, it was so rare to read a comic where the character said "You can't blame them just because they're gypsies" (Castafiore Emerald) or put himself between a Chinese rickshaw man and the guy flinging slurs at him (Blue Lotus). Herge himself admitted that he "had been brought up on the prejudices of the bourgeois culture in which [he] moved." That really took a lot of courage, I think, to realize that you've been wrong for so long and do your best to right it.
Courtney
Richard
UK Correspondent
#37 · Posted: 29 Jul 2005 23:09
Just something I spotted on Ain't It Cool News : Spielberg was recently shown a reel by Peter Jackson (director of the Lord of the Rings film trilogy), demonstrating how Weta (special effects company who did all the effects for LOTR) could bring Snowy to life. So it could be that Snowy will be a digital creation, although I'm hoping that would only be in scenes too dangerous to use a real dog.

At least we know he hasn't forgotton about Tintin !
tintinuk
Moderator Emeritus
#38 · Posted: 30 Jul 2005 10:53
That sounds like good news to me, Richard. It would seem that Spielberg is still considering the possibility of making a Tintin movie at some point !
jockosjungle
Member
#39 · Posted: 30 Jul 2005 14:56
Digital would seem the way to go with Snowy to be honest if he looks good enough.

But I thought Spielberg was an Industrial Light and Magic person myself

Rik
felixgk
Member
#40 · Posted: 30 Jul 2005 18:02
If another live movie version is ever made, I believe Castafiore should be remade to be prettier and more slender but definitely just as condescending and scatter-brained.

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