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Flight 714: How is “Carreidas” pronounced?

#1 · Posted: 1 Sep 2006 21:51
The millionaire who never laughs. The millionaire with an unpronouncable name more like.

This brings me to my question which has been bugging me for a very long time now. In fact ever since I first read Flight 714.
Just how do you pronounce Carreidas? As a kid I said carr-ee-eye-a-dis. Now years later it is more car-ee-das.
Is there is a consensus of opinion as to how it should sound?
I shouldn't let it annoy me but you know, the simplest things...!

Does he have the same name in other languages?

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#2 · Posted: 2 Sep 2006 01:12
I would pronounce his name, carr-ey (as in hey)-das (as in does) but that's probably because that is the way they pronounce it on the swedish record.
Harrock n roll
#3 · Posted: 2 Sep 2006 12:31
I say Kah-rey-duhs and you say Ker-ree-a-das, let's call the whole thing off... ;-)
#4 · Posted: 2 Sep 2006 22:31
Thanks Harrock. That's the kind of perspective I needed...

He'll be Laszlo from now on. :-)

UK Correspondent
#5 · Posted: 3 Sep 2006 01:55
Since his surname is a pun on the French carré d'as (four aces, as in a pack of cards) wouldn't it be pronounced the same - kah-ray-dass?
Harrock n roll
#6 · Posted: 4 Sep 2006 14:38
Richard wrote: Since his surname is a pun on the French carré d'as (four aces, as in a pack of cards) wouldn't it be pronounced the same - kah-ray-dass?

Interesting, I wasn't actually aware of this! After trawling the 'net I found out about a symbol on the tail-fin of the Carreidas 160 aircraft which shows the four suits from a deck of cards.

It's not very distinct in the Flight 714 book but here's a blow-up of some lettering taken from Roger Leloup's cutaway diagram of the jet.

So yes, I think it would be pronounced kar-reɪ-dæs - unless someone with a better grasp of French and phonetics knows better..?
#7 · Posted: 4 Sep 2006 15:15
Harrock n roll
Richard wrote: Since his surname is a pun on the French carré d'as (four aces, as in a pack of cards) wouldn't it be pronounced the same - kah-ray-dass?

I always heard it pronounced [ka-re-da:s] in French -not [ka-re-daes], i.e. just like "carre d'as", as mentioned earlier by Richard.
#8 · Posted: 5 Sep 2006 14:56
Go to the French-language video clip for Flight 714 (Vol 714 pour Sydney) on Tintin.com and you'll hear the pronunciation. Yamilah's way of writing it out is probably the closest.
#9 · Posted: 5 Sep 2006 21:19
Thanks for all of your input. It has helped.

It sounds a lot more exotic than my Carreiaiadaias!

#10 · Posted: 5 Sep 2006 23:40
Laszlo name may be adopted from Vladislav. According to Wikipedia:
"Vladislaus, Wladislaus, Ladislaus or Ladislas (Bulgarian, Serbian, and Russian: Vladislav; Czech: Ladislav and Vladislav; German: Ladislaus; Hungarian: Laszlo and Ulaszlo; Italian: Ladislao; Polish: Wladyslaw (with variants Ladyslaw and Wlodzislaw), is the name of several central and east European rulers of the past."

Four Ace is a heraldry, perhaps. I search for it but not found any.

There was a king named "Ladislas of Naples" according to Wikipedia [there also is a steward from Naples (Napoli) in Flight 714 adventure]. From Wikipedia:
"King Ladislas of Naples, the Magnanimous (February 11, 1377-August 6, 1414), was King of Naples and titular King of Jerusalem and Sicily, titular Count of Provence and Forcalquier 1386-1414, and titular King of Hungary 1390-1414."

In conclusion we have three clues: Laszlo name, four aces [Carreidas], steward from Naples to find the pun if Herge did any.

[All of these may be different with this topic, but I simply want to write.]

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