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Seven Crystal Balls: When did Castafiore meet Tintin?

SzplitzOnSzplug
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#1 · Posted: 6 Oct 2009 18:13
Hello everyone!

There's been a little part in The Seven Crystal Balls that's been bugging me for a while... When Tintin and Haddock are at the music halls, Castifiore appears on stage and Tintin says, "She turns up in the oddest places: Syldavia, Borduria, the Red Sea...she seems to follow us around!"

Yes Tintin met her in a car in Syldavia but The Seven Crystal Balls came before they met in Borduria and the Red Sea. And he says "follows us" but Haddock had not introduced himself until Borduria, right?

I was just wondering about that, was this some sort of translation goof up?Or were the English books published completely out of order?

Can someone please put my mind at rest?
PS Am I the only one who noticed that everytime Tintin runs into Alcazar, he (Alcazar) looks younger each time?
Balthazar
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#2 · Posted: 6 Oct 2009 22:31
SzplitzOnSzplug:
Or were the English books published completely out of order?

Yep, that's the reason. In order to break Tintin into the rather difficult, comics-hostile UK children's book market of the late 1950s, the UK publishers Methuen started with what they saw as the most appealing stories to a readership who were new to Tintin. (Interestingly, Speilberg and Jackson seem to be choosing a similar staring point in the series to introduce Tintin to cinema-goers.)

And as they brought the books out in their new "incorrect" sequence, the English translators added a few continuity text tweaks to make their publishing order seem more logical as an actual chronological order. There are several others, as well as this Castafiore one you've noticed. These tweaks do tend to raise as many problems of chronological illogicality as they solve, and it's arguable that all these tweaks and fudges could now be usefully removed from the English translations, now that we have all the books in English and can read them in the original correct order.

That said, Hergé himself didn't seem overly bothered by logical chronology in the adventures, as seen when he inserted a playful plug for Destination Moon into the 1950s colour re-draw of Cigars of the Pharaoh, an adventure that even in this 1950s version is still visibly set in the early 1930s.

I agree with you about Alcazar's reversed aging. He seems to shift from one Latin American archetype to another in each book he appears in - bombastic dictator, shady emigré, Ché-like guerrilla - and as you say, each one seems younger than the one before.
SzplitzOnSzplug
Member
#3 · Posted: 7 Oct 2009 15:01
Thanks for clearing that up for me! Now my mind is at rest!

And personally I think Alcazar was at his best in the Picaros. His look was more fitting and his personality was given more life.
Colonel Sponsz
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#4 · Posted: 23 Dec 2009 10:24
Balthazar:
There are several others, as well as this Castafiore one you've noticed.

Remember how Snowy, at the beginning of Cigars, wants to be back in Marlinspike? But at that point Haddock and Tintin hadn't even met.

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