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GSC
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#11 · Posted: 11 Sep 2013 23:07 · Edited by: Moderator
mct16:
Cushing sees the yetis as highly intelligent, maybe even advanced in some ways, while Tucker sees them as beasts

That can explain both sides. I think that Hergé did a good job in the last line of Tibet.
It really makes you think deeper about the true heart of things. The whole story of Tibet seems to have the outcome of something based on a person's view of the yeti.

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FormulaFourteen
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#12 · Posted: 10 Jan 2014 23:03
I am also an avid armchair cryptozoologist, and so I would say that on the whole I do believe in the Yeti.

snafu:
what we're seeing today is an offspring of another creature. Unfortunately, reports seem to indicate that everything is claiming to have sighted the same thing. With those two things in mind, it's hard to believe in such things!

An interesting criticism... I would direct Snafu's (and other skeptics) to Bernard Heuvelmans' influential work In the Wake of Sea Serpents (Hill and Wang publishers 1968.) It's a little hard to find, but well worth the effort. Reading this treatise, it readily becomes apparent that even the most accurate sightings can easily misinterpret what they're seeing, or they may interpret it correctly, but describe it in such a different way that two sightings of a similar creature may at first appear totally different. Assuming that most sightings are claiming to see the "same things" is largely uninformed.

By the way, interestingly enough the Tintin stories have a direct connection with Bernard Heuvelmans. It was he along with one other scientist (Alexandre Ananoff) that gave Herge the technical advice he used to create the exceptionally accurate vision of the moon's surface in Explorer's on the Moon.

Herge also consulted Heuvelmans for Tintin in Tibet because of his book On the Track of Unkown Animals, and apparently ended up with extensive documentation on the Yeti.
jock123
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#13 · Posted: 11 Jan 2014 16:54
FormulaFourteen:
Assuming that most sightings are claiming to see the "same things" is largely uninformed.

It's hard to take it any other way, I'd have thought, if I'm reading you right; to suggest that many people who sight yetis, for example, are all describing different things gives it less credibility, not more.
That is of course not to deny that that is how most of these legendary creatures come about.

However, scientific progress has been made through modern means, and Channel 4 here in the U.K. ran a fascinating short series last year, which traveled the world collecting eye-witness reports and (more importantly) samples for DNA analysis, from those who had hunted, tracked, or otherwise had sightings of yeti, migo, big-foot and what-have-you. The vast majority of these proved to be readily identifiable (and often hilariously inappropriate to the sort of encounter suggested - such as in one case, a cow).

Perhaps most interestingly the yeti came out in first place as a genuine "hidden" animal, although not a hominid. The DNA evidence connects it to a known, but thought to be extinct, ancient polar bear/ brown bear hybrid, which is right for the conditions.

You can read a report on the work done to identify the Yeti in this series here.
FormulaFourteen
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#14 · Posted: 11 Jan 2014 20:36
jock123

Because of Snafu's reference to 'other "Cryptozoological" creatures' I interpreted his post to refer to most cryptozoological sightings in general (as in generalizing that all sightings from different geographical locations seem to see the same things without variations...) Upon reading it again, however, I believe your interpretation is correct; it does make more sense that he is referring to Yeti sightings alone. My mistake. :)

Very interesting article from Channel 4, by the way.
MT50446
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#15 · Posted: 9 May 2015 14:31 · Edited by: Moderator
Yeti existing - no way.

Yeti, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster - all just fun, figments of people's imagination and folklore; I don't believe for a second that the yeti exists, and nor do I think did Hergé - it just was appropriate for a yeti to feature in the story in my view.

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FormulaFourteen
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#16 · Posted: 10 May 2015 22:50 · Edited by: Moderator
MT50446:
Yeti, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster - all just fun, figments of people's imagination and folklore

I'm not going to completely say that I dogmatically believe in the Yeti. Sure, there's interesting 'evidence' that the Yeti may exist, just as there's compelling evidence against it's existence. Simply dismissing the possible existence of such creatures, however, seems - if I may say so respectfully - somewhat uneducated on the subject.

There are a few reasons that I can't simply dismiss the theories that such animals may exits. The astounding body of sightings of bizarre animals in the sea and Native American legends pertaining to what appears to be a Bigfoot-like creature are only a few. I find it difficult to simply dismiss a very large body of relatively similar sightings as a collective hallucination. (Especially when, in the case of 'sea serpents,' sightings may span hundreds of years and fall mostly into discernible classes.)

Of course, I'm not completely arguing in the existence of Loch Ness, Bigfoot, or Yeti. I personally believe that there's something in the legends and sightings, but I also completely understand an educated opinion against.

Dismissing the possibility of there being animals undiscovered by science is an excellent way to never make new discoveries. It's also unrealistic. Despite what some say so pugnaciously, there is evidence out there for the existence of these creatures. Admittedly some is scant or even blatantly fallacious or ridiculous, but there is also some pretty compelling arguments.

Don't for get that the Coelacanth was believed to be extinct until it's discovery in 1938 - A true Lazarus Taxon.

Bailey
MT50446
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#17 · Posted: 12 May 2015 18:09 · Edited by: Moderator
Myths legends passed down through the generations for me.
I respect your views but just don't believe it myself.
I have seen supposed film footage of the Yeti, and it is nothing short of ridiculous to me.
But I suppose it's romantic to think such creatures exist.
Loch Ness has dined out on the monster for years and done the local tourist trade no harm at all.
Call me cynical but I just don't get it... Doubting Thomas, me.

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