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yamilah
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#1 · Posted: 23 Jan 2007 20:06
Most of you certainly know 'La Manche' is the French word for 'The English Channel'.
A crafty French-speaking drawer could suggest a 'cryptic' Channel by drawing a 'manche', i.e. either a 'sleeve', or a 'dorade vent', or an 'air sock' (when 'manche' is feminine), or a 'handle' or 'grip' (when 'manche' is masculine).
Such items have been drawn quite a few times by Herge, but which one can be connected with the British Isles?

In other words, where can two 'British' men featuring two different 'cryptic "Manche" crossings' be spotted in the albums?
yamilah
Member
#2 · Posted: 24 Jan 2007 18:04
Here is the clue: those British are two 'Scotsmen' who mirror those from B&W Blue Lotus (p.23-24), before they turn into Indians* in the colour version.
for details see https://www.tintinologist.org/forums/index.php?action=search&loc=1&foru m=1&topic=1649&page=14376

PS: is 'dorade vent' plain English? Please see pictures on http://www.normandy.fr/mes_r_typ_s_rayoncherche_Manches%20%E0%20air_ne wlang_2_nomdelapage_Air%20Vent.html
labrador road 26
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#3 · Posted: 25 Jan 2007 00:35
Can't say that I understand what you are on about.

from B&W Blue Lotus (p.23-24), before they turn into Indians* in the colour version.

The indians as far as I know is in Tintin in America not in Blue Lotus, until the oil is discovered and they are chased off.

PS: is 'dorade vent' plain English? Please see pictures on

Not having english as native language, I believe they are called "air vents" which is also part of the link name.

Are you doing your own trivia questions besides the regular ones or what's it about? You already seem to know the answer since youre giving clues away.

A crafty French-speaking drawer could suggest a...
And a crafty french-speaking forum member could make understandable posts, but then again, maybe not.

Please, if you have a point, write it clearly and without stars and cryptic wording. This is a forum and not an Enigma message sent by the germans during WWII.
Harrock n roll
Moderator
#4 · Posted: 25 Jan 2007 02:29
I don't know what all the fuss is about. Basically, yamilah is looking for a couple of Scotsmen who are connected with sleeves, air vents or socks. This is perfectly normal.
Tintinrulz
Member
#5 · Posted: 25 Jan 2007 06:31
Ooh, this quote is right on the money: (lol)

A crafty French-speaking drawer could suggest a...
And a crafty french-speaking forum member could make understandable posts, but then again, maybe not.
jock123
Moderator
#6 · Posted: 25 Jan 2007 09:37
A couple of observations: yamilah, the word drawer although technically correct, might be better rendered as artist, to avoid confusion with the more common meaning of “a sliding compartment, often found in a chest, within which you keep your socks (wind or otherwise)”…
labrador road 26
I believe they are called "air vents"
Well no, yamilah is refering to a specific sort of air vent, found on ships and boats, and designed to allow air into cabin space, but to avoid water getting let in with it. It may not be in common usage for many of us land-lubbers, but it is a perfectly correct designation.
yamilah
Member
#7 · Posted: 25 Jan 2007 12:02
jock123
Thanks for your constructive remarks about drawer and vents.

As the question above is finally not considered as Q128 as it could have been (it was inserted without a number in the Trivia Quiz Challenge, 24h after a partially correct answer to Q127), its quite easy answer can be given by anyone at any time, even far beyond the usual 48 hours deadline, but I'm afraid no one will get a point for it!
Tintinrulz
Member
#8 · Posted: 25 Jan 2007 13:27
What's an airlock then? Don't they function the same way?
jock123
Moderator
#9 · Posted: 25 Jan 2007 13:55
Tintinrulz
What's an airlock then? Don't they function the same way?

If this is in relation to the dorade vent (it isn’t clear, but I’m assuming it is so), then no, I think that they probably are diametrically opposed. An air-lock attempts to keep an atmosphere in, so that your submarine, space-station or whatever doesn’t leak. A dorade vent is designed in such a way that air can get in (and out - it is for ventilation, so that “bad” air can get out too), but presumably it is fitted with drainage in some way so that water is directed away from your cabin or below-decks areas.

So, to sum up, an airlock is something designed to allow for the passage of something else, without the loss of atmosphere; the dorade vent however allows for the passage of atmosphere without something else (water in this case) getting through.

By the way, I think you are getting close to deliberately trying to nettle yamilah here, so please try and make any points you have in a less abrupt manner; it may not be to your liking that the subject has come up, but that is not to say that such things don’t exist, and that yamilah hasn’t used the term correctly. Even if it was exactly the same thing as an airlock (which it isn’t), it is still a proper use of a noun, and could be used as a synonym.
labrador road 26
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#10 · Posted: 25 Jan 2007 17:17
I still don't understand the question. Does Yamilah want to know where some scots do something and something with the air intakes on ships? Or does she know the answer and wants us to ask the question? All of this is most confusing.

Could someone please explain what the question is or the answer or anything. I'm totally lost here.

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