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Jo, Zette & Jocko: Crossovers with Tintin?

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2Orangy4Crows
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#1 · Posted: 28 Jan 2006 22:33
We all know that Quick and Flupke made a few cameo appearances in Tintin, most notably in The Seven Crystal Balls, but what about Jo, Zette and Jocko?
The only connection I can think of is the Maharaja of Gopal who appears in The Valley of the Cobras and is presumably the same person who gave Castafiore her famous emerald.
Are there any other crossovers with JZ&J? Are JZ&J and Tintin generally considered by Tintinologists to occupy the same universe?
John Sewell
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#2 · Posted: 29 Jan 2006 01:26 · Edited by: John Sewell
There's also a portrait of Captain Haddock on the wall of the Legrands' home on page 33 of Mr. Pump's Legacy, so either he's a friend of the family, or else they're Tintin (or Haddock!) fans!

Not quite the same thing, but both Tintin and J,Z&J leave the USA on the liner Normandie at the ends of America and The Secret Ray respectively. There's no name on her prow in Tintin's case, but it's obviously the same ship - the angle used to depict her is identical. Not sure that she counts though, as she was a real liner - there's a page here with some information and a nice photo so we can see how close Herge got!

For a long shot, how about the bad guy on page 30 of Mr. Pump's Legacy? The missing evil Thompson triplet? ;-)
Mikael Uhlin
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#3 · Posted: 29 Jan 2006 10:46
Both Tintin in Tibet and The Valley of the Cobras starts in the French Alps in the (fictional) ski-resort Vargese.
jockosjungle
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#4 · Posted: 29 Jan 2006 16:54
Well Jo, Zette and Jocko never make a cameo in a Tintin adventure but there is plenty of crossover that has already been mentioned here. We've already seen the main ones mentioned but there are plenty others mostly which I have noticed myself as there is no real record by other people (except on my own site).

Most of the crossover is in names cropping up in both stories. Many of the ships that you see in JZ&J crossover into Tintin adventures, such as the Washington but they don't really look the same.

In The Eruption of Karamarko listening to Zette's radio broadcast Wang Chen-yee and Didi from The Blue Lotus as are Big Chief Keen-Eyed Mole and Browing Bison from Tintin in America.

If you look on my website (www.jockosjungle.co.uk) under books there is a Tintin Trivia section on each book published.

Normally it is a Tintin reference sneaking into JZ&J rather than the other way round though

Rik
Rocky
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#5 · Posted: 29 Jan 2006 17:43
And of course Jo, Zette and Jocko used to appear on the back cover of every Tintin book, in the background.
Mikael Uhlin
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#6 · Posted: 8 Feb 2006 16:58
On page 13 in "L Affaire Tournesol"/"The Calculus Affair" (in the large panel with all the people gathering outside Moulinsart/Marlinspike) there are two kids who look very much like Jo and Zette. They're running in front of the VW Beetle in the right-hand corner, not far from Herge himself.
Also in this picture are a couple of boys who may be Quick and Flupke and - interestingly - a boy-scout (standing before the gate). Could this be a reference to Totor?
midnightblueowl
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#7 · Posted: 8 Feb 2006 17:39
The girl looks like Zette but the boy doesnt look like jo. However the boy near the pram does. I still can't find the Quick and Flupke characters.
Mikael Uhlin
Member
#8 · Posted: 8 Feb 2006 19:02
Admittely, there are no clear indications of Quick and Flupke, merely a sense of likeness (like those two different-sized boys to the left at the icecream car). And the boy by the pram looks like Jo but he also looks like Quick without his cap (but then again - Jo and Quick always look alike). Another applicant for Flupke is the boy with the green balloon standing with his mother (?) between the pram and the icecream car. And behind this car are two more possible Jo and Zettes!

Anyway, it's likely that none of these actually are meant to be Jo, Zette, Quick or Flupke. It's probably just Herge drawing kids in a similar way.
labrador road 26
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#9 · Posted: 10 Feb 2006 15:28
I noticed that one of the newspapers on page 13 in Calculus affair have the name ?EL POPOL??? which might be a hint to another of Hergés series, Popol and Virginie.

Fascinating that Haddock subscribes to so many newspaper in so many languages. Or maybe they are not Haddocks but just a view of how widespread the news was.

The guy with the ballons looks kind of similar to the masoner from Castafiore emerald.

The blue car looks somewhat out of proportion compared to the VW Beetle, in my opinion.

Sorry to be a bit OT.
snowybella
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#10 · Posted: 28 Feb 2017 11:43 · Edited by: snowybella
I think the boy in the red shirt in "The Seven Crystal Balls" is Jo. Quick always wears a beret and Flupke always wears that scarf, they are also smaller than those two boys so it must be Jo.

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